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Post by davebutterflyman on Jul 18, 2018 14:14:40 GMT
Any ideas on that second one yet?
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Post by davebutterflyman on Jul 19, 2018 8:57:04 GMT
Is this just Common Vetch?
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Post by Pam on Jul 19, 2018 13:11:28 GMT
Thanks Mike for the Hoary Cress confirmation. Dave I would say a type of Sow Thistle, but they are difficult Thinking probably Common Vetch for the latest one. I`ve got a bit of catching up on here as I have been away a few days
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Post by davebutterflyman on Jul 20, 2018 8:14:34 GMT
Thanks Pam.
Hope you had a nice time.
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Post by earthdragon64 on Jul 26, 2018 15:41:27 GMT
Dave, I've just seen your Vetch photo, it could be Bush Vetch - Vicia sepium.
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Post by davebutterflyman on Jul 28, 2018 7:37:45 GMT
Oh right, many thanks Audrey, i'll look that one up.
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Post by ukhuman1st on Jul 28, 2018 12:27:58 GMT
I'd agree with Audrey on the Bush Vetch. Common vetch is much brighter and pinker, usually just with twin flowers. Bush Vetch has a somewhat 'gone over' look!
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Post by jen on Jul 29, 2018 10:39:20 GMT
Pam , the leaves look like a celery , i wonder if there's a family link ? The little yellow flower to the back left looks like a chamomile to me but there are so many similar sorry , i seem to have replied to a post on another page
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Post by geoff on Jul 29, 2018 18:49:01 GMT
This Willowherb looked a bit different so I had a closer look. What do you think about Square-stalked Willowherb - Epilobium tetragonum
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Post by jen on Jul 30, 2018 6:24:24 GMT
You've managed a good close up there , but i'm hopeless if i can't see the whole plant , the square stem in the first pic is interesting
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Post by davebutterflyman on Jul 30, 2018 7:44:14 GMT
Thanks Mike.
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Post by davebutterflyman on Jul 31, 2018 7:19:28 GMT
I'm not well enough up on my plants to tell for sure Geoff.
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Post by geoff on Jul 31, 2018 19:47:55 GMT
When I return to that site this week I will look again and try to get a view of the stem base and lower leaves.
I have Harrap's Wild Flowers which is a good book and goes into detail about stem/leaf hair etc. I made a particular point of comparing Great Willowherb today to examine the fine detail differences.
Probably my unknown plant is either Hoary or Square-stalked Willowherb and the rather hairless leaves made me lean more towards Square-stalked.
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Post by davebutterflyman on Aug 2, 2018 7:19:15 GMT
I didn't realise that Simon had published a book on wild flowers, i must purchase a copy so next time we see him i'll grab his autograph!
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Post by geoff on Aug 2, 2018 19:51:25 GMT
Excellent book, Dave. I find it much easier to use than the Francis Rose book. Although there aren't any keys so you do need to know your basic families. But, there is a picture index of typical family members so that does help where you are unsure where to start. Returned to that willowherb site again today but no sign of the plant in question. On reflection, I think Hoary Willowherb is the more likely option. Anyhow, nearby to that position there were some other smoother stemmed willowherbs. Maybe Broad-leaved Willowherb - Epilobium montanum ?
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Post by davebutterflyman on Aug 3, 2018 8:11:40 GMT
I'll certainly look into purchasing that guide.
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jen
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Post by jen on Aug 3, 2018 8:18:35 GMT
Quite a few of us here have S Harrap's Wild Flowers , .... a good book
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Post by ukhuman1st on Aug 3, 2018 18:10:12 GMT
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Post by ukhuman1st on Aug 3, 2018 18:11:48 GMT
Broad-leaved looks promising for the other one!
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Post by geoff on Aug 3, 2018 18:18:48 GMT
Thanks. Willowherbs are tricky aren't they
So is it OK for the Wildflower Challenge ?
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