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Post by Grayling on May 30, 2018 19:43:42 GMT
Thanks all. It looked green in the sunlight which made me wonder.
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Post by Tappersnapper on May 30, 2018 21:02:38 GMT
I cannot pin down this fly ID although it looks quite distinctive.
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Post by Tappersnapper on May 30, 2018 22:16:08 GMT
Is this Netelia melanoma?
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Post by salticus on May 31, 2018 3:07:02 GMT
I cannot pin down this fly ID although it looks quite distinctive. Some of the Hybotidae look similar but I can't help beyond that
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Post by davebutterflyman on May 31, 2018 7:45:59 GMT
I'll look at the Netelia, Tim.
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Post by Feedyourhedgehog on May 31, 2018 8:09:35 GMT
Thanks Geoff
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Post by davebutterflyman on May 31, 2018 14:01:16 GMT
I tentatively agree with a Netelia so Tim but i can't get it down to specie level. It could be added to the challenge as netelia sp but i'd like to ask someone i know first for a possible id if that's ok?
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Post by alan on May 31, 2018 16:29:33 GMT
Can someone confirm if this is criorhina floccose please thanks
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Post by Tappersnapper on May 31, 2018 16:46:26 GMT
I tentatively agree with a Netelia so Tim but i can't get it down to specie level. It could be added to the challenge as netelia sp but i'd like to ask someone i know first for a possible id if that's ok? Thank you Dave. Shame it wasn't a slightly better picture but it was hidden at an awkward angle to get a clear shot.
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Post by Feedyourhedgehog on May 31, 2018 16:55:29 GMT
Alan, I think yours might be a Merodon equestris
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Post by geoff on May 31, 2018 17:35:41 GMT
You need a clear view of the wing veins to separate Netelia from Ophion. Then it gets tricky either way if you want to reach an actual species level.
I agree with Merodon equestris. It can't be a Criorhina because of that deep loop in the wing veins, which places it as an Eristalis sp or Merodon equestris.
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Post by alan on May 31, 2018 18:56:22 GMT
Thanks feedyourhedgehog and Geoff for that,these hoverflies are tricky
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Post by davebutterflyman on Jun 1, 2018 7:11:17 GMT
They most certainly are Alan.
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Post by geoff on Jun 1, 2018 18:58:45 GMT
If you think hoverflies are difficult have a look at this sawfly! It initially keyed out as Hoplocampa testudinea (Apple Sawfly) but when I viewed other images it definitely didn't match. So I tried again and where the keys require a bit of personal judgement I went both ways. This produced Selandria serva and Brachythops flavens, but neither one matched images of those species. Which leaves me back at 'square one' without any idea of which road to take next.
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Post by davebutterflyman on Jun 2, 2018 9:13:05 GMT
That shows you how difficult it is Geoff, even with images like that.
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Post by Feedyourhedgehog on Jun 2, 2018 12:55:45 GMT
It's a Hover Jen.....not sure which one at the moment...I'm sure Dave or Geoff will know
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Post by jen on Jun 2, 2018 13:01:46 GMT
Ah ok Paula . I was trying for a honey bee and wondered whether there were ones with a dark bottom I must look again at that hydrangea , it's covered in bees ... as good as an ivy in bloom
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Post by Tappersnapper on Jun 2, 2018 18:35:17 GMT
Struggling with this one. Looks like an assassin bug of some sort but could be mired or stilt bug? Help much appreciated.
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Post by geoff on Jun 2, 2018 18:50:09 GMT
That is an Eristalis hoverfly, Jen.
And another of those sp forms. I need to see more detail for a full identification, particularly the legs.
They are honey bee mimics.
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